Money tree, money tree... where for art thou money tree? Oh, right. You're over at Crunchy Co-operative.
You all remember the kind, sweet, deserving, generous, sacrificing, over worked, glorious people that run the Crunchy Cooperative? They need your money again.
If you believe this current call for another $1450.00 please, pay your back fees that you should have paid in the first place. I would notice if I was short $1450 in my PP account.
:checksbankbalanceslowly: Oh! Wait! I am! Please forward your donations to OMGRUDUMB@yahoo.com. Let’s have a race, Andrea is up to about $65 … if I can double that in the next 5 hours I will send you a set of postcards from the PoC Summer Tour! Please make sure that you send it as personal and don’t mention fees. In fact, tell me Happy Birthday!
If this type of thing just makes you all fired up, JustJessica will invite you to flounce.
We are so there.
serious WTF moment
… HOW the hell can someone say “boo to paypal”??! Paypal is a BUSINESS. It’s not here to operate for FREE. HELLO!! Be grateful we’re not in the stone age having to send checks, money orders or money transfers.. where you have little or no buyer/seller protection. Yeah.. big bad paypal and their hidden fees that aren’t clearly written in their policies. Yeah.. boohoo. I cannot believe people are falling for this. Please go read paypal’s schedule of fees and policies.. This is the stupidest load of bs I’ve read in a long time. You don’t just lose 1450 dollars, or 3k like the other person. There is a reason that money is gone, and I’m guessing that paypal recouped fees after the fact (which they’re able to do, since technically having everyone send as payment owed is cheating the system).. Sounds like they need to bookmark ppcalc.
I think maybe they were hoping that PayPal was some kind of charity – they do have “pal” right there in the company name, after all.
LOL I know right. C’mon paypal.. give the little gals a break. They only need a few grand here and there. Big bad old paypal, they’re SO not MY pal anymore.
This is coming from the host who up and disappeared for quite some time, with unfinished coops and ignored PMs from many members.
Oh really? That’s even more fun… and strangely less surprising.
Yeah like things forgot about from March/April (even after many requests for more info), wrong or missing items sent to people and no refunds/sorry nothing even though they were paid for. She quit in the middle of coops recently and others had to step in to try to figure them out. Plus if she hasn’t been receiving money because she hasn’t been doing coops often then how did she not notice all this money missing.
You also don’t get to disappear and then reappear and say, “sorry I was gone and a really crappy host but send me your money!!” As this has went on I am sure there will be fewer and fewer people involved there.
Also no host has offered any explanation only other people jumping in with assumptions and explaining. If you question you get the same answer that anyone has ever received when you question anyone on the board, “These are moms who do this out of the goodness of their hearts for NO money and they have families that come FIRST”. I am far from cold hearted, but when I pay money for something and it is not received in a reasonable amount of time or I have a question and I simply ask about it I don’t need someone jumping down my throat.
Yeah, I can’t believe that shit. Coming back from WHOTHEFUCKKNOWSWHERE and being all “omg, guys. I just had to take a break, wah wah. PS: I has no monies. Gimmegimme!!”
She’s also apparently somewhat notorious for disappearing and screwing up people’s orders. She gets a fail stamp from me.
Yeah, she loves to just disappear in the middle of coops and leave the WAHM hanging. But nobody else can run it except Jodi, it would be terrible if either of them missed out on pocketing those coop fees!
She also has repeatedly fail to deliver product to people, or refund their money. I couldn’t count the number of people she has screwed over on TWO hands much less one.
wow really people are just paying these “fees”.
WOW. Seriously, are people that dumb? WTF.
I am so amused that you ladies have so little going on in your own life that you have to take stabs at people you don’t even know. Bravo for you! I hope all this smearing gives you a good warm feeling inside – because that’s about all it is worth.
i actually DO feel pretty warm and fuzzy…
I feel pretty warm and fuzzy too.
Aww I guess that means you have the time to read it and reply. hello pot, it’s kettle. YOU’RE BLACK! And ackshully I do feel warm and fuzzy. At least I still have my money.
If it wasn’t for PoC I might actually have participated in something on CC…now I know better…so thank goodness for PoC!
I’m amused that you are so dumb you can’t see what’s going on right in front of your face. Go back to the rest of the sheeple, or content yourself by “donating” some more money to Jodi or Andrea!
Unless you ARE Jodi or Andrea, in that case take your head out of your ass and own up to your mistakes
I use my paypal fee monies as a sort of blanket to keep me warm and fuzzy.
I’m actually a CC member and I’m glad someone is calling bullshit on this crap.
I’m sorry but if you are gone for a few months and during that time most likely not getting any money in the account for additional coops then the only explanation for someone not to realize that they were missing money is that they were making enough through coop fees that more than enough covered the mistake.
How no one is just reporting this scam/extortion/repaying fee whatever it is to paypal?
If I was being hounded for money I didn’t owe and/or possible blacklisted from this website I think a since FU would in the order and would report their asses.
Hmm, maybe Andrea should refund me the $30 that she’s had of my frickin money since before easter? She is seriously the worst coop host I have ever seen in my life. She likes to disappear a lot, and not answer emails or PMs, or posts in threads of people wanting to get their crap after like 4-5 months of waiting. Conveniently her internet is always out when you need something (like your money back). Oh and she has “health problems” now.
I heard that the “missing” yarn was actually not so missing at all…I bet the only one who knows what “happened’ to it is Andrea herself
Jodi and Andrea are both idiots, they won’t be getting one cent of my money. And yes, CC is a fricking business, Jodi is now charging $3 per person coop fee for Mosaic Moon coops. You know how many people participate in those??????
Polymailer for one order- somewhere between 5-10c
Printer ink- hmm, mine prints for less than 3c per page!
Paper- should we say another 5c there? I think that’s generous.
So lets do the math.
$3.00
-10c
-3c
-5c
EQUALLSSSSS……tadaaaa! $2.82!
And lets just say that each person in the MM coop orders the maximum of 8 skeins. That equals about 37.5 people participating. I think we all know there are more, since not everyone gets the max skeins, so lets round that up to 45, which is probably still a low estimate.
$2.82x 45 =$126! That is PROFIT people, PROFIT. If Jodi wasn’t making a PROFIT, Crunchy-Cooperative would not be running, I guarantee you that.
She was so upset about “losing” that $3000 because she SPENDS THE PROFIT that she gets FROM HER BUSINESS!
Yet some people still do not understand how these things work. If she wasn’t SPENDING HER PROFITS then the $3 per person per coop fee would easily cover all those fees. Now, I could care less if she’s making a profit and spending it. Having profits to spend is great! But,
#1 do not pretend, deny, lie and mislead people about the fact that CC is a business
#2 do not be a complete fucking idiot and not keep records and accounts for your business.
#3 do not blame people for your stupidity and shoddy record keeping. The only person who could see that those fees were coming out was JODI.
#4 do not bully people, threaten to ban people, and then subsequently apologize and delete tons of posts to cover your ass when you’re called out.
Also it is a fact that she has at least one time (and I’m sure many more in the past) pocketed further discounts on coops without telling the participants. I.E the WAHM/company in question offered an extra discount for reaching a certain dollar amount, but the participants had no idea, Jodi just swept it under the rug so she could have the extra money
Did any of the coop participants bring this up to the WAHM???
Maybe someone should send the PoC link to Paypal…
I don’t think any of them knew but the WAHM found out.
Other WAHMs have seen her charging super high prices for STH and STY, way more than it actually costs- and that caused them to include the STH prices in their coop price to prevent the customers from being severely overcharged.
And yes, there is a growing list of WAHMs who won’t work with CC anymore, either because of this or other shady stuff that has gone on. It’s too bad, because it’s great business for WAHMs.
If this all true, and at this point I believe anything is possible, I wish more people knew about all of this. I have bought THOUSANDS of dollars of products from CC thinking that I was getting the “best deal”. At times with the shipping and fees I ended up paying more than had I bought directly.
There also was a lot of uproar about talking about coops on other boards (or really even being involved on other boards). I kind of understood why some retailers would pull out if word got out about discounts, but now I am thinking a lot of the frustration was probably with people finding out other boards were offering much better discounts.
Yeah that whole “CC coops stay on CC!” thread- wtf is up with that? They probably just don’t want the same coops running on other boards because then people will see how much they are really being charged for participating on CC!!
Also, about the Spaver thing? I looked into that. If you run a coop on Spaver, you get $2 or whatever per person for “running” the coop, even though everything is drop shipped. And they give you that money as a gift card so you can order product yourself without having to pay for it! So I’m sure when Jodi decided to run a quick Klean Kanteen coop after one had just run, she just did it because she needed some more free KKs.
I was going to do that coop but the shipping was like $8 for one cup, it was cheaper to order from Amazon no matter what. Same with those Rody Ponies, you could get them for like $10 less on Amazon plus FREE shipping, than the coop Andrea was running through Spaver!
I want to know what WAHM this is.
Also can some one clue me into what Spaver is please.
http://www.spaver.com
it’s a group buying site where they organize it all for you. You pay them and they ship to you.
I’ve participated because it was just about the only place I could get some of this stuff. I’m so glad light is being shed on their fees. I paid my fees because I feel like it was the right thing to do. My mistake is co-oping there in the first place.
Long ago, I vowed not to participate in any of Andrea’s coops. I finally gave in once and it freakin proved AGAIN why I don’t. I was missing half of my stuff, some of what I did get was wrong, and it took forever to get it.
They are downright LYING that they don’t make a profit. I figure that people pay the fees and participate in coops because CC offers something that you sometimes can’t get somewhere else, but I believe they are being deceitful and even arrogant about how they run their coops. I hope they reduce the number of coops being run at a time and the fees, and allow open hosting to keep them honest. They won’t be around long if they don’t listen to the concerns of their members. I’ve seen posts get deleted. Someone is almost always pointing out that the fees and shipping aren’t saving them anything.
I know a BUNCH of WAHM’s aren’t going to be co-oping through CC anymore. Most of the ‘established’ ones know what’s going on and are really not happy with how this was handled.
Oh thats great news!
It’s beyond me why people keep sending money to people when they were ignorant and irrisponsible with thier money when they sent it to them in the first place!
This whole situation makes me all kinds of mad.
Yeah, and it’s big names too. I hope their shady ass board goes under.
i have a feeling a lot of people won’t be going there anymore.
I’m soooo tempted to send 50 cents to each women with a note that says “You said you were owed fees that paypal took out that you didn’t, and asked for us to make it up, so here’s my part!”
Send 30 cents.
I just want to make it as obvious in the Paypal note as I can that its for fees and they were begging/requiring the $ be sent.
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who thought this latest drama was a little “hinky”……but then again, there is so much ongoing drama and “crisises” that the hostesses seem to face every week….
I don’t doubt that these ladies truly didn’t realize the extra fees were coming out of their pp account….and that scares me more than anything else….they are working with tens of thousands of dollars, and don’t do their basic bookkeeping?? I balance my checkbook monthly, I check my online balance EVERY DAY, to check for discrepencies…and I’m certainly not dealing with the amounts of money they are working with. Bad organization, bad money handling….and they can use all the excuses in the world for it (I have a family, my house is flooded, my internet isn’t working, etc. ad nauseum), but the simple fact is this: If it’s too much to handle, then they shouldn’t be hosting as many coops as they do. If they can’t do their simple math and take the RESPONSIBILITY of managing their money affairs, then they should have to eat the cost, and not come after people w/extra fees SIX months after the sale.
I haven’t been active on CC for awhile, and now am very glad. I now also know why several of my favorite WAHM’s and other businesses haven’t been offered up on the boards in awhile….based on the information I’m reading, there is a growing number who are fed up with the excuses, and delays, etc. as well.
If it is indeed true that certain hostesses are pocketing additional discounts and not telling participants, then shame on them!! I understand how time consuming coops can be, but that’s the responsibility YOU incur when you agree to host coops, especially ones that you know are going to be huge. I’m all about saving a buck or two, which was my main reason for joining CC, but when I factor in coop fees, shipping to host, shipping to me, and the cost of waiting three times as long for a product…most times, it costs me almost the same to purchase in a store, or directly from the company…and I don’t deal with the headaches and excuses….
Totally agree. And then you don’t have to wait for months to get your stuff either!
People should send her the money in $.05 increments to her paypal account. Now won’t paypal take out $.30 per transaction if sent as goods? So she’ll lose a quarter each time. LMAO.
If you send a penny as goods PP just takes the penny.
No. If you send less than the 30 cents PP just takes the whole thing.
I wonder if anyone HAS reported them to paypal yet? I wouldn’t be in the least bit surprised!
I have read elsewhere that yes people have reported them.
Andrea needs to stop hosting coops or let all participants know she’ll probably disappear mid-coop and leave it for someone else to pick up. Coops are not rocket science. Yes, they can be time consuming and require some really good organisational skills but if you don’t have the “right stuff” and /or have health issues significant enough to take you offline for over a week, then stop doing it – you have much bigger things to worry about. I don’t know why Jodi lets her continue to be a host. She sends the wrong items to the wrong people, “misplaces” items and takes 3 friggin months to ship something. Why would everyone welcome her back like that?? Its almost creepy. She screwed up big time and hasn’t even offered to make it right for ANYONE – its bullshit. People are afraid to speak up with the fear of being banned but she can just go about her merry way, taking your money and coop fee and not sending your items.
As long as people are stupid enough to keep sending them money, they will keep begging for more. I mean, seriously, how many places can you say “omg, I fail at life. give me money!” and have people actually do it?
so I sorta skimmed over that last coops that andrea did. After totaling all the orders (I know there are 3 coops from her list I missed) I’m still only getting aobut $700 in fees. That’s not even taking into consideration those that paid w/ credit cards and already paid fees. I’m not buying the whole $1,400 crap.
I’m so over CC. And the spaver thing had me pissed off from the beginning. I also know there are WAHMS that aren’t very happy with them charging coop fees when they are drop shipping the order.
They were gathering fees so they can get free product.
I’m also so irritated that they didn’t realize this was going on. Anyway with a premier account can see by just clicking on payments received that fees are being taken out. I was always going back to the thread they had about paypal fees because I was not understanding how they could continue to get away w/ having people send as personal. Bad, bad management if you ask me. You better believe if I had that much money coming through my account I’d be double checking everything.
Okay, I looked it up because I have a premier account.
I clicked on Payments Received. And I can see every payment I received and whether I paid fees or not.
So, yeah.
Herein lies the issue. Jodi admitted she did not CLICK and thus she never knew the fees were coming out. Makes we want to run right out and sign up for a coop with her.
Yeah, ummmm, maybe it is just me and being broke and having to sell stuff, but I check ALL of my payments and make sure they are correct and I know when my payments come in if they are off. I admit I don’t have 16,000 coming in a month, but I mean, that is what a day, if you are only netting, it should send off some alarm bells.
I also know for a fact that Andrea likes to bully and extort the WAHMs whose coops she runs
It’s lovely, she tried to get 10% of someone’s total sales, and that would have been on TOP of the coop fees if the poor lady had agreed to it. Thank goodness she didn’t, but she had to pacify her with an even further discount on the products that she (Andrea) ordered from the coop that was running.
I wouldn’t doubt that she does the same thing to every WAHM she runs a coop on. Maybe she couldn’t get free yarn from Sugarbubbie and that’s why some of it “went missing”.
grrrrr….
Yeah but it was really random yarn that went missing. And it was 5 skeins and 1 trim. PLUS four trims were sent to the wrong people and they had to pay the shipping to each other. I really think the coop fee in that case should be used to pay shipping.
that’s BS all the way and I agree the coop fees should cover it or the COOP host herself since she made the mistake to begin with.
Bah! She always asks for shipping, even if it’s her own damn fault. Also if she owes you money in the first place, she has done that to me and I was like wow you must have some balls. Gimme my damn money back and then maybe I’ll pay your shipping.
I had major issues going on with Andrea two years ago before they even switched boards. I tried to say something, but I’m just the bitch who doesn’t understand these wonderful, caring women who do so much for others. I am just a drama queen. I got everyone jumping down my throat and then a private apology from Jodi…Andrea NEVER apologizes for anything. She is one nasty individual and although I believe Jodi screwed up, I think Andrea is just jumping on the bandwagon trying to get some free money. Notice how she comes back “oh I’m so sorry I’ve been missing, blah, blah, blah” one day and the next she is asking for $1400.00!!!! WTH is that!!!????
I mostly only do co-ops with Carrie from co-op mania now
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/co-opmania/
She USED to be with Crunchy co-op, but she got smart and got out a long time ago. She’s a fabulous HONEST hostess with lots of integrity.
Why did Carrie leave?
That’s for Carrie to say really, I don’t want to butt myself in and tell her story if she doesn’t want it told.
Because she was banned.
She was banned because she spoke out against you. You know that. DON’T you EVER try to make Carrie look like the bad guy here. She has been an outstanding, honest, responsible and reasonable co-op host with ZERO complaints. Can you say the same? Not even close. How dare you just say she was banned. You only banned her because you didn’t want her speaking the truth. Everyone knows how ban crazy you are now after your hateful PM to everyone. Get over it!
I for one was on CC just briefly cause after seeing what coop prices they charged were and EMAILING THE COMPANIES myself to ask for the prices, THE GIRLS AT CC ADD MONEY TO THE COOP ITEM, say something is 3.50 coop price, the company actually sells it at their price for 2.50 so they make 1.00 ON TOP of their ‘coop fee’. Which if you order 10 things, that’s ANOTHER 10 bucks they pocket. And ANYONE can email the company and ask for the coop to be run, doens’t HAVE to BE A FORUM. Just some have minimum orders.
They are a joke, they were ripping everyone off. Quite Frankly I’d prefer to pay fees for a coop so if they screw you, you can file against them and get your dough back.
That is against the rules (to contact the companies yourself for anything). They say the reason is that companies in the past have pulled out because of people emailing them directly. Probably was because someone let them know that CC was overcharging and not telling their members.
Against whose rules? CC’s?
Yes, in the past people were emailing companies questions or such and it was stated ALL correspondence must go through the host.
I’m sure there was SOME truth to the companies refusing to do business with them if they were contacted by others….but that made it a helluv easy for them to screw off the members didn’t it?
I’m sure there were only a couple companies this really would have mattered to though.
So uhh, it looks like they are following through with the bans.
My username has been manually deactivated by an administrator. No notice or anything.
you are kidding me. What made them ban you?
and I agree Carrie does a wonderful job. So do the hosts on some of the other forums like CDN.
No idea. I just went to check what was going on over there and couldn’t log in. No warning or anything.
All I wrote about the whole thing is my comment up above. And in the thread about Jodi herself because I was confused since I did have to pay fees when it was funded (but it turned out it was because I’m Canadian). This was all when it first came up last week, and was banned today.
you’re still on the member’s list. your name isn’t blacked out (like they become after you’re gone)
I was blocked, I emailed Jodi before I posted this and she unblocked me later that day.
I’m kind of in shock I’m not banned yet. It’s not like I’m hiding who I am, or what I have to say. I was the one who had all her posts deleted last week…still no ban for me! Weird.
Did Jodi say why you were banned?
I think you were banned cause you questioned them. I expect to be banned soon. Did you have any outstanding coops?
I was banned I guess. Can’t log on. I didn’t have any outstanding coops to pay the ridiculous fees on.
Perhaps they got mad about my comments above?
I did tell them that I would NOT pay their fees even if I HAD done recent coops.
Dunno.
so, people are sending what they owe, some of them “plus a tip.” really? sending extra money because they’re 1)idiots, 2)unethical, and 3)idiots again. of course, who’s the idiot when they’re cashing in on their mistakes and everyone else is losing money?
I can be an idiot sometimes. Send me PP please!
Me too!
I think a vast majority are only sending an extra 2.9% + .30 transaction fee just in case they ping that one for back fees as well.
I would not only contact paypal but also the IRS. How much do you wanna bet these ladies are pocketing a shit ton of money from these co-ops and not reporting a damn thing. I mean it sounds petty to do that but if they are gonna try and pull one on us and act like they are doing us a favor, I say report their asses!
Oh wouldn’t that just tick them all off! I’m not gonna do it, but if they keep it up I’m sure some will get just plain sick of it.
I see they are having a very difficult time filling their co-ops these days.
Do they really just not get ANYTHING!?
I agree that both PP and the IRS would be interested in hearing about Jodi and Andrea’s profit.
I’m curious about the spaver thing. Did the host charge a $3 coop fee PLUS get $2 per person from spaver in a GC?!? Or am I reading that wrong?
Well if you are getting it wrong, then I am too.
No fees are charged by the hosts on any spaver co-ops
Okay so I just spent two hours going through all of Andrea’s coops.
Fun fun. Especially considering the database for the Feb JT coop is deleted and Snap Capps don’t have pricing. I ASSumed that the FEB JT coop was double the APR JT coop and put a price of 2.99 per Snap Capps, counting all the fees and being generous with the amount I put , rounding up instead of down, I got a total of 1438.36. This is not including the fact that a number of people paid by CC or “tipped” to be nice.
wow! you did better than me. I didn’t get anything that close, but then again I didn’t add in 30cents per transaction.
I think someone let them on to the fact that they need to call it a “handling fee” instead of saying “hey, send your $ for fees” b/c now in the new co-ops it says “handling fee, 2.9%+.30″ or whatever it is exactly.
I agree with whatever was said above; they need to quit running so many PER PERSON at one time. It’s a bit ridiculous with the lack of communication… and the rudeness that goes on if you’re not one of the understanding ones. I don’t care how many people are there and active, if someone leaves for a month out of the blue with ZERO communication and the website owner is calling trying to hunt her down and has to talk to her husband b/c she’s so loony and lost it, then I for sure don’t want my money in her pocket.
When she came down with her sickness, she said she couldn’t quit b/c “it’s a way of life”. Hmm, sounds like it’s providing a flippin INCOME for your household and that’s why you can’t quit. Otherwise, why wouldn’t you, at the very least, cut back on how many you’re running at one time?? Makes so sense to me.
I am (foolishly) in 1 coop with them right now, but once that is done I AM OUT! I have not been happy with CC for a little while, but thought it was just me. Apparently not. And add on this new “drama”… well, I’m just done.
I hate having to practically beg the coop host for updates. (Only to get a not-so-nice reply) I hate that some hosts think it’s okay to keep YOUR PAID FOR ITEMS in their home for a few weeks because they are just too busy with BLAH BLAH BLAH. I know they have lives, but they shouldn’t run coops if they can’t complete them in a timely manner. Fees on coops that are drop shipped are RIDICULOUS!!!
And then all this talk about them overcharging the actual price set forth by the company.
And then asking for fees paid in a way that’s meant to deceive Paypal (again).
And then threatening bans (and apparently following through).
And then being bitchy to anyone who questions them.
And… need I go on?
I just need to write down some info on the hosts there, because I’m sure we’ll see them popping up elsewhere once CC meets it’s inevitable demise.
If you have a coop with Jodi, it’s going to be delayed. Prepare to be called an insensitive bitch if you question it.
Good to know! Thanks! :thumbsup: (not sure if the emoticon will work, but wth….lol)
what’s new. they all are delayed.
Yeah except with a horribly sick child, MM is still opened on time!
Glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed that MM managed to start on time and get updated and closed in a timely manner…..
I hate being pigeon hold. On one hand you have really great coops, and a wide variety of them, on the other you risk getting ripped off. Eh…I really hate being put in this position.
there are other places that run coops. Fast and honest. CDN, AMH and coopmania to name a few.
I’ve taken part in multiple co-ops through MyCrunchyMama.com and ClothDiaperNation, and never had even a hint of a complaint. Everything has been timely, reasonably-priced, and straight-up honest. Hosts post links to the information where ACTUAL prices are listed, so there’s never any doubt.
And she has disappeared again! Hasn’t been on for 2 days.
YLU is another site with fantastics hosts. Not as big as some of the others because its yarn related items only but a great bunch!!
Well something new has pooped up.
Turns out that Andrea is asking for PP fees for a co-op she didn’t accept payments for. She and the hostess had the payments sent to the hostess instead.
Go to Closed Co-ops, find Rowynne’s Garden and go to page 5, second post down Andrea asks for payments to be sent to the hostess. Third post down the hostess gives her info.
Good catch! Un-freaking-believable…..do you suppose anyone else noticed this, or did they just blindly send their “handling fees” and tips because they were told to?
I didn’t catch it. Someone did on her “ask for fees” thread and I confirmed it.
Yeah I noticed that their coops are just sitting there now and no one is joining. Especially for Andreas, hmmm…..
The only coops that actually run smoothly are jodi’s mm coops but that is probably just because morwenna is super organized and awesome.
I wonder what happens if someone gets banned and hasn’t gotten goods from a coop yet? I’m not even in any current ones because I’ve know they were shady for a while, but just curious.
i hope people who were stupid enough to send andrea money and were part of the RG coop realized that they didn’t pay her. WTF. She is going down as one of the shadiest in my book.
I was looking at the Just Tomatoes coop, they are trying to fill $2000 worth of stuff so that it ships to both the coop hosts?
yes, that’s how they normally do it. I really have no clue where either of them live, but they say they do it so that it cuts down on shipping costs to participants. But how do they determine what order goes to what host?
I was wondering why they needed 2 orders. B/c it’s free to host, so you’ve only got to pay your portion from host to you. Jodi’s in Texas and Andrea’s somewhere Eastern/Northeastern. Its done by your zip code.
I think it’s so the ship from host to you is cheaper. If you have a large order it can be pretty expensive to go from Texas to the East coast, so I think that’s why they tried to do it that way. Since Andrea is closer to me, I always got my JT from another co-op! I had no interest in dealing with her.
If you’re shipping USPS there is no cost difference to ship closer or further as long as it’s in the lower 48 states.
Don’t drink the kool-aid
Not sure where you got your information, but if you are sending priority mail and NOT using a flat rate box/envelope, there can be very large differences in shipping amounts based on distance. Prices also range for parcel post. These are both through USPS. You might want to check your info, because it is way wrong.
now, if they item is being sent first class (13 oz or less) or flat rate box or envelope, you are right, there is no difference in cost, but that is not necessarily the cheapest option. The closer someone is to them, there are time the flat rate box will not be cheaper.
First class varies by zone as well. Just not as much.
When did that one change! lol! Argh…..I’m going to have to check that out because I did not know first class changed to zone charges too.
I just looked and first class does not charge different rates by zones.
Express Mail, Priority Mail and Parcel Post do. Maybe you are thinking Parcel Post?
http://www.usps.com/prices/welcome.htm
Huh, I always thought it varied. I don’t think I’ve shipped anything Parcel Post in years.
No kidding, learn something new everyday. I’ve never noticed a difference except when I’ve shipped to Alaska and I expected that. I knew UPS and fedEx were by zones
I’m done with CC…those bitches. I was nice enough to pay my back fees to Jodi, and you know what I got in return???? Multiple charges to my debit card from Crunchy Cooperative that I did not approve. I had to cancel my card and now I’m waiting 2 weeks before I get another one. I don’t know how it happened either…can anyone explain to me how this happened?
Really… when did this happen? Did it show up as Crunchy Co-op doing it? I’m just curious because I recently had a weird thing with my debit card as well.
you may want to look into this because there is not a way for anyone on CC to charge your card. All money is sent through Paypal and hosts do not have the capability of charging anyone’s card as that info is not released in paypal. Many paypal accounts have been hacked lately as well.
did you file a claim with paypal to get those payments back?
No one can take money from your debit card via Paypal – so whatever has happened on your account has nothing to do with CC. You need to contact Paypal and find out how this really happened?
Jodi is canceling her primary paypal account.
perhaps too many complaints to pp about it?
I am another fool
someone on DS convinced me try try CC and I have been waiting on this 1 co-op ever since. It closed in May and still nothing. I’m sorry but Jodi sucks ass. It’s like pulling teeth to get and update. She tells you one date it comes and goes then you have to try like hell for another update and repeat. I sure as hell won’t be doing another co-op with CC ever again. I want my stuff before it’s of no damn use to me and will be closing that account right after
How is a host supposed to update when the WAHM is not giving information?
By making a post that there is nothing to report.
Yeah, or emailing the WAHM to ask for an update since that’s her job as the coop host?
If she posts on the co-op that the orders will be in by X date and that date comes and goes without merchandise damn right as the host she should be updating the co-op.
I could understand if she was being asked multiple times a day every day but in the co-op I was in no one even asks until the time frame she is telling us has passed. That’s piss poor organization and just plain bad business.
Anyone wonder if maybe Jodi spent the money for some co-ops on other things (like Lori did way back when on a group that I am pretty sure no longer exists) and is now trying to recoup by using this scam? I mean if it is taking this long for a co-op to come in that should have been in a LONG time ago…makes you wonder. That was our first heads up with Lori (if you remember her) was how long it was taking to get our stuff….It took me a year to get my stuff from her! Crazy!
If this is in regards to the Mutt Co-op then members must contact Michelle because all money has been paid to her. The accusation of Jodi spending co-op money is out of line. All products have been paid for to the company. The delay with Mutt is on the end of the company nothing to do with CC.
I think it’s in regard to Jodi magically missing thousands of dollars, which I think we can all agree is pretty hard to do. I wonder if Jodi has ever posted Paypal screenshots? I know that if I paid her money, had to wait months to get an item, and then heard this BS about her not noticing that much money missing, I’d be curious to see her account summaries for the last few months.
I did NOT accuse, I speculated. BIG difference. Someone is awfully defensive.
And considering the fact that I was missing hundreds of dollars from one co-op host already who swore up and down it had nothing to do with anything she did, until she was completely busted, yeah, I think I have the right to speculate. Co-op hosts are HUMAN and they make mistakes, yes, but hiding and covering up mistakes is not cool. I’m not saying that is what is going on here, just saying another possibility, one I’ve already experience can and does happen.
I don’t think it would be the Mutt coop anyways. If it was that then Michelle would have told someone that she was never paid, kwim? Most likely she is just running behind.
Now, other things like Enwrapture…coops that deal with actual companies not WAHMs it would easier to pull off and just blame it on the order taking forever.
I posted a comment on the goodbyns thread because I went to order and found them to be cheaper on Amazon (17.32ppd for ghost and plum) figuring oh that site should be about finding people the best deal and someone deleted it. God forbid I take away anyone’s coop fee profits.
and because I am feeling grumpy about it, I posted it again.
That must have been deleted fast. Do people actually join coops without researching to see if they can get it cheaper and faster elsewhere?
probably. I don’t. I always google to see if I can get it cheaper. I mean why pay $17 plus a coop fee plus fees plus shipping and wait because it’s on backorder when I can pay $17.37 or $22 and have it on Friday?
yes they do. Sad actually. They think that because it’s a coop that they are getting a cood deal, but in reality if you add everything up most of the time it’s not a deal at all.
I researched the Sofie the Giraffe co-op, and you could get that cheaper elsewhere, too. It’s definitely good to check around before committing to a co-op!
My head is spinning right now. I stupidly sent Jodi some money to cover her loss. I forget that just because I am an honest person doesn’t mean that everyone is. I am DONE with CC. I’m sure after this is published I will be banned as well. I need to find some other co-ops to buy from though, I love getting the deals, when it is a deal. I agree with everyone saying if you question or ask anything you get a snotty response and Andrea takes forever and a freaking day to ship your stuff. I was going to participate in 2 recent co-ops but pulled my orders after reading this stuff. I’m sick that I have given these women my money more then one time. And also the co-op fee on drop shipped items always bothered me. I couldn’t understand how they would charge a fee when they weren’t doing anything! I think I questioned it once and the responce I got was, we spend our precious time away from our families to organize these co-ops that is why you pay the fee. I’m over it and never going back again!
no one was banned you moron
Boy that is a mature comment. Why would you even bother writing anything at all? Just to call me a name? Nice!