Woolly Cheryl’s daily wool fashion show thread over on DiaperSwappers finally started to get interesting today. We have had plenty of people email us about it since she posted the first pics of her bitty daughter in woolies from the infamous stash, but we were just watching and waiting to see where it lead… until fsulaura entered the fray:
![](http://www.pooponcloth.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Picture-162.png" "Picture 162")
it is SO on
You can’t tell me she is saying anything worse than what the rest of us were already thinking… but we’re waiting to see how long the cat fight lasts – and how many of the former owlie brigade leap to ckck’s defense.
Whatever, being a petty hateful bitch says so much more about the person doing it than the person being talked about. And I’m sorry, but posting pictures of your children/wool stash/ whatever on a public forum does not entitle people to say rude things and pass judgment. The basic rules of polite social conduct still apply on the interwebz, or at least they should. No one would ever say what was said to her face, and if you would have, then you seriously need to question the kind of person you are choosing to be.
Rules don’t apply here. This isn’t DS or the Goodmama forum. All opinions/assholes will be heard equally.
And besides, Cheryl is the one that told someone to check their parenting style.
No, Cheryl said “maybe you should have another baby so you don’t feel the need to tell others how to take care of their own” and I have to agree. I think the comments made about her baby being tortured and looking miserable were out of line, unnecessary, and hurtful. Just because you think something doesn’t mean you need to say it
)
MissMaggie – Just because some people hide behind unidentifiable pseudonyms does not justify their neanderthal actions. The misconception that the simple action of being anonymous does not mean all the basic rules of etiquette should no longer apply, I don’t care if this is not DS or CDN. You souldn’t NEED a mod to act with basic decorum. Sure everyone is free to have an opinion, but that does not mean they need to be out right cruel to another human being just because they have the means to dress their little one as they see fit.
Aw! You’re so sweet! Thanks for the awesome compliment!
I keep seeing people say someone called her baby ugly but I can’t find where that happened. Help?
Me either. Now, the wool, that’s a different story.
I don’t anyone called Eden ugly just her wool. by the way She is a cute little girl.
I don’t recall the baby being ugly.
Anyone?
sorry too tired to go look and the thread was either closed/deleted/or under review
The DS thread was closed because Cheryl posted a link to here. Kudos for shutting down your own love fest Cheryl!
This whole topic is sad. She clearly stated in the ds thread that the baby only had hats, gloves etc for pics only!! To bash and call heer names is fucked up!
This is why I never show my stash and pics of my daughter in said woolies. Because I know i will be talked about and end up here!! Which is a shame that I would be judged as you are judging her.
Im going to assume that the woman who are bashing her never ever dressed their little girl in big fluffy dresses and tight and what not!
I think my boys would look kind of funny in fluffy dresses.
thanks for all the entertainment this evening. i hope you all will come back and play again soon.
wow, holy shizzle. I stand by my DS post, which I said as tactfully as I could manage after having a laugh fest with a TON of other mamas for the entire duration of ckck’s thread. I’m a wool fan, but for fuck’s sake- that stuff is too much. That’s my opinion, that’s what message boards are for. The baby looks damn uncomfortable and all anyone can do is drool over the $$$$$ (I mean outfits) she is wearing. I said in the post that it’s a cute baby so whoever is accusing me of insulting the child can get the fuck out.
The pictures and oodling were getting to me, so I made a comment. Everyone has defended their stance, and I now have to return to my Walmart cash register. The Good Lord knows I couldn’t afford our poisoned baby clothes without the employee discount.
fsulaura FTW!
your post was unwelcome and unwarranted and you did it to bait Cheryl, congratulations, I see in you signature you are a lawyer, several states are currently working on legislation and there has been several interesting cases on this subject, in your opinion would the collective acts promoted on this site and towards Cheryl qualify as a case for cyber bulling or just slander and deformation? Since you “can’t hold back anymore”, your need to blurt out whatever unkind thought that enters you mind, leads me to believe you might suffer form a breakdown of in you chemical synapse, better know as Tourette Syndrome, this is a rare condition but they do have medication that can help.
wow, you must think you are important using all those big words. Or maybe you really feel insecure and use the big words to cover it up and make you seem more important. Either way, thanks for the entertainment.
There are studies that have shown bulling is directly correlated to feeling of envy, resentment, low self esteem, shame, anxiety, depression, personality disorders and sexual frustration and or sexual confusion. Most bullies were at some point the victims of bullies.
This site is a vehicle for several people, who demonstrate several of the aforementioned characteristics, for no reason, except for their own selfish need to dominate another, have chosen to try and hurt Cheryl.
I find the whole concept of this site to be swarmey, and repugnant. The cowardly hiding and not “outing yourselves” is particularly disturbing. It is one thing to man up and own your opinions, it is quite another to pretend you are someone or something one place, only to be someone or something else on another. I would have far more respect for the lot of you, all be it would still be just as distasteful.
The first time you ladies chose to tear Cheryl apart, I thought it was ridiculous that a bunch of grown woman were engaging in such behavior, so I just ignored it. The fact that this has reared it ugly head again, tells me that this is not going to go away, and that what this sight is missing is a social conscious, a service I will be more then happy to provide.
I know I don’t have a need to, nor do I chose to use vulgarity, I guess you will just need to be amused by my sarcastic wit. I suspect that there are some among you who will need to use a dictionary to read my posts, so I will just chalk that up as a bonus, a vocabulary lesson. Goodness knows some of you need one.
Your mom – you need to continue to proof read dear, there are a few “i”’s left not capitalized you missed in this thread.
You’re something. I did not comment to bait Cheryl. I commented to share a view different than straight up ass kissing. See my comment in response to Cheryl below- I did not intrude upon her thread to call her parenting to the mat. Was I perhaps tactless? Sure- I own up to that as a personality trait that serves my just fine in my daily life. Sometimes it doesn’t translate to internet commentary. I did not bring the discussion to this site. I was alerted to it 2 days after my post.
While I do not appreciate the hostility that has grown out of this, and do not encourage it to continue, I am glad that others have noted that they shared my opinion. I ONLY added my remark after days of discussions with others who were lurking Cheryl’s thread, and shared my perspective. No way would I have said it if I had commented to friends “look at these extreme woolies” and gotten a response of “laura, you’re nuts, it’s winter, babies get cold, let it go.”
fsulaura, would you like a :golfclap:, maybe I should pin a medal on you? no? “I said as tactfully as I could manage after having a laugh fest with a TON of other mamas for the entire duration of ckck’s thread” You said you already had a good laugh with in private, where your “tactless” behavior apparently is approved of and fostered. I find it hard to believe that with the history of the pervious thread, that any reasonable person would not be able to deuce, the tiniest spark of drama in Cheryl’s new thread, would surely find it way here.
Don’t try and polish this turd by proclaiming You were not looking for a “debate over pictures” *insert eye roll here*. The justification that no one pervious to this thread said anything to the effect of “laura, you’re nuts, it’s winter, babies get cold, let it go.” Is ineffectual, it just makes it should like you around yourself with other small minded individuals.
FYI, I too can be crass when the situation warrants (case in point). The difference is I looking go looking for someone day to ruin or good name to mar, I reserve my wit for “special occasions” like this thread.
More big words!! Love it! I bow to your projected intelligence.
I’m out. I don’t care what you say or what you think. I’ve defended myself and I’m sick of hearing and saying the same thing over. I should never have posted that thread, my bad. I knew there was a bunch of biotches that were just waiting for me to do it.
May you see the same karma that you have shown me one day. My children may grow up spoiled, unappreciative and wanting others to like them. At least I’m not guiding them as a bitter old hag who craves seeing others hurt. Good for all of you. You should be very proud.
Thanks to those who know me and stood up for me.
Have a great day ladies :goodvibes: Oops, I guess I’m being the big ol’ C word again :blush:
Wow. So someone goes to a place to show off wool & diapers, and shows off their wool and diapers. OMG, how dare she.
What a bunch of jealous, bitter bitches. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to act like that. Seriously, if you don’t like it, don’t read it, she’s not hurting anyone.
You make it obvious that you are mad that she can afford this (or charges it. or whatever, whoTF cares). You are only demeaning yourselves. Change your situation if you want your life to be different, don’t try to drag others down & make then feel bad because you have made shitty choices that have left you so unhappy.
& no, you don’t have to be rich or have a ton of wool to be happy. But anyone who acts like such a twunt to someone because of their wool stash- well, you’re obviously not happy with yourself. Go, maybe do some yoga. Whatever it takes to make it so you can at least keep your pitiful self-loathing inside your head & away from others who don’t deserve it.
“My children may grow up spoiled, unappreciative and wanting others to like them.”
Awesome Cheryl!
yup there is no in between. If you think cheryl is a shameless attention whore and uses her kid as a doll/vehichle for showing off clothes you don’t appreciate cute wool and shop at walmart.
true story.
Why is it so hard for you people to wrap your mind around the fact that we don’t have to be jealous to recognize that her obsession (because that’s what it is) is excessive, wasteful and indicative of a bigger problem? I’ve never fallen under the wool spell, so I have no desire to spend my cash on a crazy amount of it (for a newborn, nonetheless) to show off to a bunch of strangers. If someone I knew IRL who didn’t cloth diaper told me they spent that much money of their newborn’s wardrobe and showed it off to me, you better believe I’d look at them like they were crazy. What does that say about me? Um, that I’m practical and don’t have a shopping addiction. And this whole question of why do you care? I don’t. I don’t have to care about it to recognize that’s it’s odd. Why do YOU all care so much about it?
And let’s just stipulate a few things here:
1. No one here called the baby ugly.
2. Not everyone who thinks it’s nuts called Cheryl any names.
3. Everyone on both sides is enjoying this, so scrap the poor, pitiful, victimized Cheryl crap.
4. This is growing tiresome.
I think I’m falling for Myra…
Me too. *swoon*
Aww, group hug!
I think some people can only rationalize this situation by assuming that anybody who doesn’t like Cheryl’s wool is too poor or cheap (or frugal) to buy it. That’s just sad to me, because it means that some people have a hard time thinking for themselves. Let me make it simple for those people.
There are people who have the money to invest in that type of stash who choose not to, and they aren’t frugal, or cheap, or poor. They simply think that newborns were meant to wear simple clothes that are easy and comfortable for them to wear and don’t “eat [them] up” when they sit in a chair (Cheryl’s words).
Myra, it is not so hard for me to “wrap my head around” your need to try and stir the pot, Cheryl is a victim, you did call her names, you are passing judgment based on the cost of her stash, your whole post is oozing with misguided loathing. Qualifying your narcissistic pontification with “I’m practical” and Cheryl is not, so there for she must be crazy is lame. FYI, YOU defiantly, care or you wouldn’t have bothered to post.
ooh! More big words! Exciting!
I care because I think nasty self-righteous people who attack a person with a newborn baby because of their wardrobe choices should be called out. I think it’s a ridiculously bitchy thing to do. And you obviously care or your wouldn’t keep posting about how much you DON’T care BUT YET how much better you are for your frugality.
Some people have different budgets than yours, if you weren’t jealous you *actually* wouldn’t care and you wouldn’t keep trying to be so hateful.
me thinks denise drank the kool-aid. Tell me, when the comet comes, are you worried you won’t have your Nikes tied the right way?
YES. All of that. Oh, and this stuff can be sold when Eden is done wearing it, at close to what it was bought for, so it really is like an investment, in my opinion
Can’t say that about normal clothes at all.
maybe not the ones with her name on it. Those might be harder to sell.
…and the ones she uh, pooped through? I know we’ve been sent at least three screen caps with comments about ‘how to get poo out of wool’ and the fact that the girlspawn has ‘pooped through two outfits already’…
Well, wool, much like diapers, can be washed ladies. And amazingly enough, embellishments made by duplicate stitch can be removed. Shocking, I know.
Diapers really aren’t an investment. We’ve covered this before.
Investments increase in value. Durable goods depreciate. No wonder this country is in a financial crisis. People are dumb.
well I thought it was odd to have a thread dedicated to the kids daily wool changes. Some of the wool was cute but the child did seem of uncomfortable I mean how old is the child she must only be a couple of weeks. just my thoughts
Cheryl, not sure if you will be back to see this, but congrats on your new little one. : ) I’ve been unable to go to DS so I missed seeing the threads about Eden.
I honestly don’t understand the drama. I don’t see how anyone could not love seeing itty bitty newborn pics. Nothing more heartwarming than a little babe in wool.
You had to see the photos… :-/
There is presently a PoC office debate on regarding this – we were sent most of the pics as screen caps from either DS or CDN already, and we do so love a slideshow…
Slide show! Slide show! Slide show! I want to SEE it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“& no, you don’t have to be rich or have a ton of wool to be happy. But anyone who acts like such a twunt to someone because of their wool stash- well, you’re obviously not happy with yourself. Go, maybe do some yoga. Whatever it takes to make it so you can at least keep your pitiful self-loathing inside your head & away from others who don’t deserve it.”
This comment by Denise got me thinking….you see, I already posted earlier that I am in NO way jealous of her ridiculous wool stash, I can buy whatever the hell I want, I’m not poor. I like wool, in fact I have a very nice stash of it, and diapers. I mean, it’s all like…tastefull and not butt ass ugly but I digress.
Not everyone who thinks the whole thing is ridiculous is jealous of this woman. Just because one person said she was does not mean it applies to everyone.
Now, back to what I was originally going to say. When I first saw the constant spending money and buying of newborn wool for this coming new baby, all I could think was wow- what is wrong in HER life, because it seems like she is making herself happy by spending money. Compulsive, impulsive, whateverelse-ive, just CONSTANTLY SPENDING MONEY. Usually people who do that do it because they have some other void in their life that they are trying to fill.
So. That’s what I have to say about that.
Alright, so apparently my posting pictures of my daughter in her wool gives you guys the right to know everything in my life. Fine. I live on a farm in the middle of nowhere with my children. My husband has been living away from home for 4 yrs now. He is only home on the weekends. I have friends, but none are like me, so I don’t hang out with them. My family lives 45 mins away and quite honestly don’t really care to much about what happens with us. Did i have a void i was trying to fill? You betcha. Yes I missed my husband, and yes I was lonely. Did I want Eden because of show and tell? Nope, I wanted Eden to fill in my void. And she did. I love her to pieces. This makes me sick to my stomach that anyone can possibly try to turn all of this crap around on me and make me look like a horrible person. Now you are trying to load pictures on to the site to further degrade me? What kind of women are you? I’d seriously like to know. I took those pics and posted them with pride. I’m now suppose to be ashamed of them. I shared them with people that I thought were my friends and were sharing in my excitement. I had no idea that some would really stoop this low.
I can’t believe I’ve allowed all of you to get inside and hurt me this much. Do what you want, make fun of me all you want. I do care, but whatever. That doesn’t matter now does it. Myra, you know nothing of me, nothing. Don’t presume to know what I do and do not like. I assure you, I did not want or need this.
It can be debated which one of us started this insanity, you with your thread or me with my comment. I just want to say that I added my post because I thought the wool was over-the-top. I think Eden is precious and I’m glad you have her. I think the pictures in her diapers, and her cuddlesack or whatever it is called are lovely. So is some of the wool. But the other picutres, what with hat, sweater, pants, booties, etc. are a bit much for a small one. As someone else said, when she’s bigger and things fit and you can take action shots where she’s…acting, whole different ball of wax.
To everyone- a debate over pictures does not have to turn into such butthurt. This goes to both sides of the fence. My comment was not an insult as to Eden’s appearance or Cheryl’s parenting. When we, as new moms, have a newborn we generally have no clue what to do with it (don’t argue with this, you’ll be lying), and perhaps someone adding feedback that wasn’t 110% gushing was going to make Cheryl think, “hey, maybe this is too much…I bet she’d still look perfect with just the t-shirt and booties”. Guess not.
Cheryl, don’t be so hurt by a bunch of people who don’t know you and wouldn’t say these things to your face. If I did know you and had you in my home or office, I can tell you 100% truthfully that I would have made the same remark.
I appreciate what you were *trying* to do, and thank you.
I do want to explain myself as well. I live in Canada. It gets really cold here in the winters. We’re talking minus 30. I had these outfits made with hats and mittens for when we go out. Trust me, I do not like bulk on a baby. That is why I had a poncho made up for Eden, to avoid the bulk of a winter jacket. The hat, mitts etc WERE ONLY PUT ON FOR THE PICTURE. I would never keep her indoors in that stuff. I can’t let her sit in a diaper without pants because it is 68 degrees in my house. While we are at home, I usually keep her in her cacoon, but when I don’t, I keep her in pants, a shirt and booties. Yes I only use wool with her because I am not a huge fan of pul. I like that fitteds and wool are breathable.
I guess maybe when posting my pictures, I should have said, hat and mitts are only used for the pictures. Our temperatures are very cold here. I just assumed that people would know I had enough common sense to not overdress her indoors. I was just trying to show the whole outfit.
Eden is actually my 4th baby. She fills my void because she is also my last.
What has bothered me the most about this, is that someone is actually willing to try to post pics of my baby on a gossip site that anyone can get into, just for entertainment. Using my baby to try to degrade me further. That absolutely disgusts me.
I have to say… I think it’s silly that I should have to explain myself in such great detail to get people to understand why I’m dressing my baby the way I am.
I will do anything to keep her pics of this awful site though.
For what it’s worth, I support your request to not have the pics up and I’m sure the operators of the site will honor it.
All we’ve done is point out the fact that people have sent us numerous screen shots from your “fashion show” thread – we haven’t posted them. However, they were freely available to anyone who happened to cruise the DiaperSwappers site (and for the first X page clicks on CDN) – no login, password or funclub membership required. So perhaps if you’re that concerned about the photos potentially popping up elsewhere, you should use greater discretion when posting such images online in the future.
Do you not have to be a member to see pics on DS and CDN? If not, I will not be posting pics again. I was under the impression you had to be a member to view anything. I felt safe posting in a mother/baby site, but I guess I shouldn’t if that is the case.
Cheryl – on DS anyone can look at just about everything, there are some areas that are restricted, like the Coops section, but by and large the whole site is wide open. The only ‘restriction’ on visitors is that if they’re not signed in they have to suffer through even more annoying ads. CDN is a bit different, you can browse some areas without signing in, but only a limited number of times before you will end up locked out.
so when she posted pics of her daughter she should have known that a whole thread bashing her on it was going to be created? I guess you are right, she should have used more discretion because she is psychic. :puke:
She posted pics to let everyone share her joy. Plus most of those pics were REQUESTED by people.
seriously people, get over it, she is not hurting anyone, is she hurting you, NO, so if you dont like it, dont look, MOVE THE F ON
Who the fuck is Cheryl and why should I care?
Dear Heretovent,
This morning I noticed you post at the bottom of the pervious thread in this drama, and I think I should inform you of Legal ethics in regards to deformation of Character/Libel as your statements are in print. Cheryl need only to prove that you knew or SHOULD have known the statements you are making would hurt her reputation. From the information in your own posts, you have yet to provide evidence of “intent to buy” or an agreed price, aka contract. If the simple act of telling a WHAM I lover her work constitutes a verbal contract then we are all in trouble.
I will however tell you what this does sound like, sour grapes, you were hoping Cheryl would adorn her newbie in you wears, and gush over your work, there by drumming up business for you.
I wonder, if being outed wouldn’t be good for your business, what do you think a lawsuit would do for it?
Either provide evidence of your unfinished business, or BACK OFF!
I am glad you have owned your mistake, these are sometimes the most lasting lessons we learn aka, “i wont ever make a custom before getting paid for it EVER again”
LOL you just threatened a lawsuit on POC.
MissMaggie, I do believe that is a first and deserves special attention!!!!!!!
Anyone with an once of common sense would know that YOU CRICKET have no standing anyway, so don’t be such a jackhole! You are threatening a third party with a lawsuit that you have no standing to bring.
Shut.the.fuck.up that is so funny. Miss “I’m not a lawyer but I play one on the internet” LOLZ
Thanks Cricket :hugs:
This isn’t the same wahm that I was thinking it was. I have noooo idea who this is
If I did do this to this wahm, I’m truly sorry. I really wish she would just contact me and fill me in. I’m def not perfect by any means and maybe I did screw up somewhere along the way without realizing it. It’s not fair to accuse me and not even give me a chance to defend myself.
As for my hair clip wahm, we have straightened things out between us. There was a lot of confusion in that one. That was my bad for even bringing it up before I knew who it was.
Where else did she post Cricket?
CONGRATS CRICKET!! You are the first asshole to ever threaten an anonymous person with a lawsuit here on POC! How does it feel to be such a douche?
Ladies, I know it is a matter of semantics, I didn’t threaten anyone, just trying to to point out that trashing another’s good name does come with potential consequences.
Wow it is soooooooo easy to get all your panties in a bunch, spin it anyway you like girls, ROTFL
My panties are not in a bunch Cricket, I just work here. It’s my duty to offer congratulations for such achievements!
1. Truth is an absolute defense to any claim like what you are seeking. If heretovent is full of crap, you’re right, she’s doing something stupid. She doesn’t have any obligation to out herself, though.
2. The cause of action is DeFAMataion, not deformation. That’s something that happens at the time of conception (generally speaking) or in a bad accident.
Now I know I’m in love with you.
I see. You throw me over for whatever Luara-come-lately that catches your fancy. Fine, we’re broken up.
I guess the old gray mare just ain’t what she used to be.
I’ll go sob in cheryl’s woolies…
But baby, it didn’t mean anything!!
three doesn’t always have to be a crowd!
I had a good chuckle over that one.
I still love you Schmoopie. Mwah.
I’m roflmao that Cricket is trying to sound intelligent by using ‘big’ words and phrases, yet her posts are rife with misspellings, including the hilarious “deformation of character” a few times. Psst, it’s actually “defamation” of character. Please step away from the thesaurus, dear, until you can figure out how to properly use the words you’re flinging.
As far as everything with Cheryl goes- who the hell cares what she dresses her baby in? There are babies that aren’t being fed or are freezing, are being abused, etc. So she sticks her kid in a bunch of different wool outfits; I’m sure Eden will not be bringing that up in therapy later in life.
I am always amused by ‘Conspicuous Consumption: Wool Edition’ that plays on daily on DS, but that’s a constant thing. It didn’t start with this poster.
*that plays out daily on DS
I had a horse named Cricket once. She was beautiful, but dumb as hell. Seriously.
I love breaking new ground, :giggle: Thanks for my new badge of honor, and all the congratulatory jeers :flirt:
I must have hit a nerve, historically you ladies don’t start whipping out the obscenities and spell checker comments unless you are desperately hanging on by a thread.
PS TL good catch wouldn’t want to leave the softball just laying out there, LOL, ROTFL
clck
You have no reason to defend yourself, you did nothing wrong. Some people just cant stand that you spend a ton of money on cute woolies. Why the hell not? I do. Expessially when i am sad/mad/bored/ We would be great friends I am sure because we would not have to be ashamed of how much with one another! i think any rational person would know that you baby was not wearing all of the hats and mittens in the house. I guess she just could not handle pages of people swooning over your stash and baby. It is supposed to be a happy thread. Not a controversial one. I am sorry you have to feel like this when it is suppossed to be a happy time in your life.
BTW people IRL if someone showed you there but ass ugly baby in butt ass ugly clothes would you say wow, I sure don’t want her to think too higly of her child/clothing choices, better tell her how ugly her child/clothing really is!
I’m a proud cheryl ass patter
and I love the pics of eden in her pretty woolies